Bizarre Marriage

March 27, 2008

Taming a Sulking Filipina

Filed under: About Her, Asian Women — Tags: , , , , — Vienna @ 8:11 am

I got a comment in my other blog but that comment is intended for my previous entry in this blog, so I’ll address it here.

Here’s the comment:

I went to your Bizarre Marriage blog and identified so much with what you wrote. Unfortunately, I couldn’t get any of the links there to work so I’m back to Sol Latino writing about your revelations. It is really helpful to understand some of what happened but you’re absolutely right, once pagtatampo sets in, a herd of elephants could not get an angry Pinay to say anything. And I noticed that no matter what I said after that, it was taken in the wrong context, in fact, in the very worst light. As a typical male trying to solve the problem, I pushed for communication and angered her so much that I finally got a response. It was not a pleasant one. I saw my tiny, beautiful, sweet Pinay become possessed. She was harsh and rude and vicious and then hung up on me and was silent for days. Thank you for helping me understand that behavior that so puzzled me.

In my Mexican culture, we also look down on walang modo. In fact, a person can have little or no formal education, but if their social etiquette is poor, they are frowned upon. That seems to be changing now or maybe its changing with Mexican Americans who too often lack the manners which are part of our heritage. Anyway, thank you for these insights and please keep them coming.

All my Pinoy friends are gone, any chance you can get some advice on how to deal with pagtatampo .

First, let me express my apologies. This blog was acting up all weird last week and I honestly don’t know why. There must have been some problems with my web host. But anyway here’s what I have to say.

Unfortunately, I don’t have any Filipino guy friend around to ask about how they deal with their sweet pinays who are in a “tampo” mode so I’ll tell you something which is based on my own opinion. Now take note that because of individuality, this might not work with your beloved pinay.

If a Filipina is sulking then she really would like to be left alone so don’t bombard her with all your questions. If you noticed that she’s quiet, not talking, or acting cold and weird ask her one question: “What’s wrong?” If by any miracle she explains why she’s acting weird then you should thank all your saints because normally, the best answer you’ll get is “Nothing.” Now I understand that this will leave you in a very uncomfortable spot but be patient. Back in the Philippines we have a saying that goes something like “You can’t cool down a hot-headed person while being a hot-headed person yourself.” Patience is always the key. After hearing her cold answer, say something like “Alright, but I’m just here when you’re ready to talk.” After saying that, you should mean it. This is not a pass for you to have a boy’s night out—you’ll make her even madder. You let her be but stay around so she can feel that you’re really just there when she’s ready to talk. When you feel that things are easing up a little bit or she’s starting to warm up again, give her some “cariño”. I cannot exactly explain what that means but just to give you an idea… “cariño” could be a warm hug or a kiss on the forehead. You don’t have to have sex with her actually, don’t even try to have sex with her. This will only make things worse. Just be loving to her. If she cries, wipe her tears but don’t tell her to stop. Just let her cry while your arms are wrapped around her. You’ll see that after a good cry, she’ll be okay again. That would be the time to get her talk about what happened.

This is just to give you an idea on how to deal with her simple “tampo”. If it’s a major “tampo”, well that’s another story.

If by any chance you are a Filipina and you are reading this, you are welcome to add your suggestions, advices, and comments.

March 24, 2008

Getting to Know a Filipina

Filed under: About Her, Asian Women — Tags: , , , — Vienna @ 11:41 pm

Alright, you’ve heard of the stereotypes therefore you can say that you have an idea of what a Filipina is like. You see, I am not saying that all these labels are right or are false but every Filipina, like every woman in the world, is entitled to her own uniqueness so forget the stereotypes. If you really want to get to know a Filipina then that would need way more than chatting or reading her profile in some sites. Here’s a quick note—I have nothing against meeting your partner online (with the intent to meet her in person and really get to know her before anything else) and I honestly have nothing against decent dating sites but I strongly oppose sites which are marketing women (not just Filipinas) like commodities.

So anyway, getting to know a Filipina would entail effort from you. Chit chats and small talks are nice but if you really want to get to know her that would require meaningful conversations with her over a cup of coffee or a walk with her in a park or a visit to her house with her family there. I could go on with the list but you should have understood my point by now. Get to know her deeply. Get to know the people and the things she loves as well as those she hates because only then she’ll truly appreciate you.

worthy-reads.jpgIn line with this topic and my monthly Worthy Reads, here are some splendid articles written about Filipinas by Filipinas themselves. I have read each and every article and was impressed by all of them so I recommend them to you. And if you must know, these articles are entries to the essay writing contest hosted by FilipinaImages.com in line with Women’s Month and the launching of WikiPilipinas.org’s Encyclopedia of Philippine Women—a portal that provides unlimited information about Filipinas’ successes and triumphs anywhere.

Enjoy!

No More Filipina in a Shopping Cart

That Portrait of a Filipina

Bi-Cultural Pinay

Filipina 2.0

Filipina—Woman of Character

Restoring the Image of a Filipina at our Fingertips

From Fan to Fist

How Dating Websites Commodify the Filipina: A Pseudo-Case Study

The Filipina Doctor: Coming Full Circle

My Own Fairy Tale

March 22, 2008

Why Can’t Filipina Women Say They’re Mad When They Are?

Filed under: Asian Women, Cultural Differences — Tags: , , , , , — Vienna @ 2:35 am

Filipina women are generally frank when they have something nice to say. Like when they like your new haircut or when they think you did a good job at something. They normally say what they think if it’s nothing negative. And when it comes to expressing criticisms or passing on bad news, given that these “must be expressed”, you can often expect that it will be said in a nice less shocking way. When they’re the ones in the receiving end, they also expect that things are conveyed to them gently.

Now what does that have to do with her indescribable attitude when she (a Filipina) is mad? If you have hurt her feelings, you can expect to receive a very “cold shoulder” or worse, a “silent treatment”? You can be sure to get a plain and cold “yes”, “no”, or “maybe” to every question you ask. If it is bad, she may not talk to or even look at you at all.

Why?

You see, Filipinas are taught not to talk back to their parents (the persons they love and respect), to their older siblings, to teachers and other people of authority otherwise they will be branded as “bastos(rude, discourteous) or “walang modo(uncouth, uneducated, ill-mannered). In Filipino culture, a child (at any age) talking back to her parents is completely unacceptable. When her parents scold her about something, she’s not supposed to reason out unless asked. In this case obviously the child cannot express herself through words. She can only let her parents know how she feels through “pagtatampo(sulking—the nearest English equivalent). She will refuse to talk to anybody, refuse to eat, and other things that will alienate herself from the family. This is the reason why Filipinas are so indirect when it comes to saying they’re mad and when it comes to confronting you about why they are mad. Culture taught them this.

How do you deal with her when she is in “pagtatampo” mode?

Well, if you know a Filipino man… it’s best to get advice from him.

March 18, 2008

Something About Asian Women

Filed under: Asian Women, Cultural Differences — Tags: , , , , — Vienna @ 10:55 pm

This is an interesting comment on an entry in my other blog

comment.jpg

I take that he is saying that Asian women don’t express themselves well verbally and probably sexually too. The fact is it is true. A lot Asian women aren’t the most forward women on earth. You can’t expect an Asian women to tell you if she likes you as more than a friend or not. You have to find a way to find that out by yourself because she won’t tell you until she is sure you are crazy about her. Now, if these kind of Asian women make you (a western guy) nervous, just think that these women are probably twice as nervous as you because they’ll always doubt if they are taken seriously or not. I can’t say for sure but maybe these Asian women who want marriage before anything else would like to make sure that they are not on the losing side. That you are not the kind of western guy who came to Asia, had fun (with girls), then went home alone without looking back.

Although Asian’s views on sex and marriage are getting more and more modern, it is still behind to that of the West. A decent Asian woman don’t just have sex, she have to be in a relationship and it have to be a serious relationship. If an Asian woman would give herself to somebody then in the end did not marry that person, she will feel used. She will feel that she lost her face.

On the other hand, maybe there are some who would do anything to go out of their country.

March 13, 2008

Obligatory Language Lessons

Written on : January 16, 2008

scheisse.jpg

We worked out a plan concerning our problem about being away from each other for three months. I will not go to Austria this summer to study German there but I have to get a tutor here and I must take my lessons seriously. I must really learn how to speak before we go there for a two weeks vacation in May. By then, I should be good enough to pass the examination. So we will risk it. I will take the course’s examination without attending its lessons. Getting the school to agree to this is yet another thing we have to manage but right now I am just glad to know that we don’t have to be separated for 3 months.

My previous German tutor is an Austrian. I had around 10 sessions with her but she is now expecting so she needed to go back to Austria for good. Marcus got me another tutor and she is a Korean who is married to a Belgian guy. She can speak Korean, Chinese, English, Belgian, and German. Impressive. I met her today for our first lesson and I have to say that she is quite good. She’s not a native speaker of German but she teaches this language well.

Maybe a lot of you are wondering why Marcus is not teaching me. Well, Marcus is not a very good teacher. Sure he can speak perfect German (obviously because it’s his mother tongue) but he doesn’t know how to explain the intricacies of it. He can correct me if my grammar is wrong however he cannot explain why my grammar is wrong and how I can make it right. Plus, we are so used to speaking in English with each another. So far, the most difficult thing that I have to overcome in this intercultural marriage thing is that even if Marcus can speak perfect English, I still have to study German. Do you know what’s his? For him, the most difficult thing to overcome is eating balut (fertilized duck eggs).

Post Wedding Requirements

Everything worked out with our post wedding documents. We fulfilled all the requirements and now I have my E-card (Health Insurance) and my Aufenhaltstitel (Austrian equivalent to US Green Card). I am now allowed to enter and leave Austria as I pleased without the hassles of getting a VISA. With this, I am not only allowed to stay in Austria but I am allowed to work there as well. There is just this one more thing we need to do. In Austria, immigrants are required to complete an Austrian Integration Course. This is a 300 hours course that will run in three months. In this course, one has to learn how to speak, understand, and write German. There would be some lessons about Austrian culture, tradition, and maybe history. It’s a law in Austria that every immigrant should be able to integrate in their society.

I am perfectly okay with this but there is one problem. I have the allowance to complete this course within 24 months from the day the municipal hall gave me the voucher for it. By the way, this course is being paid by the government and after completing all the lessons, I should be able to pass some sort of a test otherwise I would have to repeat the whole course again in my own expense. Given that I can attend all the classes, I am confident to say that I am pretty much sure I can pass the examination but Marcus and I are not in Austria thus I won’t be able to attend the classes. Our only option (at the moment) is that I will go to Austria in the summer and stay there for three months to attend the course and Marcus will stay in China. This is not good. Marcus and I don’t like to be away from each other that long.

Marrying a Filipina

Written on : November 16, 2007

I have to clarify it first—I am not advertising or promoting Filipino/non-Filipino marriages. Also note that I am not a lawyer, these are just from my personal opinions are not supposed to be taken as legal advices.

I just would like to help those who are in Filipino/non-Filipino relationship. If you are planning to marry your Filipina girlfriend but don’t know where to start with the documentation, here are some pointers for you. If you are planning to marry your Filipino girlfriend in the Philippines, these are the documents you need:

Affidavit of Legal Capacity to Contract Marriage: You can request this from your embassy in Manila. If your embassy does not give such document, you can get an Affidavit in Lieu of Legal Capacity to Contract Marriage. Both documents are basically saying that there are no legal impediments to the marriage but before your embassy gives you this affidavit, you must first present some/all of the following (depends from which country you are from):

-Proof of Citizenship

– Proof of Termination of Previous Marriages (if you are divorced or widower)

– Parent’s Consent (if you are under 21 years old)


Once you have your affidavit of Legal Capacity to Contract Marriage or the Affidavit in Lieu of Legal Capacity to Contract Marriage from your embassy and once your girlfriend has the same from the Philippine National Statistics Office, you can then proceed to the Local Civil Registrar to apply for the Marriage License. Note that you also have to present the following to the Local Civil Registrar.

- Death Certificate or Divorce Decree which shows the termination of any previous marriage (if you are divorced or widower)

– Birth, Baptismal, and Residency Certificate of your Filipina girlfriend

– Parental consent or advice, if either (or both parties are) party is under age.

You have to wait at least 10 days before the Local Civil Registrar will issue your Marriage License. The Marriage License have 120 days before it expires and this marriage license can be used anywhere in the Philippines.

Sounds pretty simple but this could take time so process the documents early on. Best wishes.

Older Posts »

Powered by WordPress